Tuesday, October 7, 2008

Debate about nothing

by Nicki October 7, 2008 The Liberty Zone

I watched the majority of the debate, and I was bored out of my skull.  I have to say that everytime I hear John McCain’s voice, it seriously makes me want to throw my cat into a blender to drown it out.  There’s something creaky, Cryptkeeperish, cocky and condescending in it all at the same time.  It screeches “I’M AN OLD, CROTCHETY POLITICIAN WHO’S JUST MEMORIZED HIS ENTIRE SCHTICK!”  Every time he starts to talk, I want to hit the “mute” button.

On the other side Obama doesn’t have a shreaky, screechy, irritating voice.  He doesn’t have the preachy, old guy inflection, but he’s got this smarmy superiority, especially when he starts lecturing us about our duty to be our brother’s keeper.  In other words, my cat is in danger of the blender treatment no matter which candidate happens to be yapping his maw.

Oh, and by the way, I stopped watching NBC a lot time ago, so I have to wonder what the hell happened to Tom Brokaw.  He looks puffy, like he’s had a severe allergic reaction (not an unlikely scenario given the two festering yambags whose debate he was moderating).  How long has he looked like a smaller version of Fat Bastard?

Couple of things that struck me.  Economics was the topic of the night, and neither one of the candidates appeared to a) be versed in the basics and b) respect the fact that the money the government is spending does not belong to the politicians.  It belongs to the people.

OBAMA:  I think everybody knows now we are in the worst financial crisis since the Great Depression.

Um.  Can we say “MASSIVE EXAGGERATION,” boys and girls?  The banking crisis of the 1930s was so severe that thousands of banks failed in 1933 alone.  Is there really a comparison here?  Politicians screech about the credit freeze, and yet, there are plenty of companies still willing to lend, as long as there are borrowers willing to borrow.  As economist Michael Mussa says, Indeed, I think mark-to-market accounting has actually exaggerated to a significant extent the losses that are likely if we could calm the situation now. …I think that by the middle of next year, the financial crisis will probably subtract about 1% from the level of U.S. GDP and that foregone output between 2008 and 2010 will cumulate to 2.5-3% of GDP — which is plus or minus $300 billion in lost output.  That’s not a trivial amount. It is not, however, the Great Depression.”

And yet, both candidates are shrieking about spending YOUR money on bailing out organizations that have done nothing but make bad judgments, knowing that nanny government will come rescue them at taxpayer expense.

MCCAIN:  You know that home values of retirees continues to decline and people are no longer able to afford their mortgage payments. As president of the United States, Alan, I would order the secretary of the treasury to immediately buy up the bad home loan mortgages in America and renegotiate at the new value of those homes – at the diminished value of those homes and let people be able to make those — be able to make those payments and stay in their homes.

Is it expensive? Yes. But we all know, my friends, until we stabilize home values in America, we’re never going to start turning around and creating jobs and fixing our economy. And we’ve got to give some trust and confidence back to America.

OK, please tell me why the hell I would vote for a guy who has so little respect for the hard work that I do and the product of that hard work – my earnings – that he would order the government to use my money and the money of my fellow taxpayers to buy up crap mortgages, because other people were too stupid or too irresponsible to make responsible financial decisions?  He seems to forget that ordering the Treasury to buy up bad loans is not just screwing with his money, but with the earnings of every single taxpayers in the United States.  McCain can afford it.  I can’t.

Second thing I’ve noticed ties in with the first thing:  these two jerks have absolutely NO RESPECT for your hard work or the product of your hard work.

QUESTION: Senator, selling health care coverage in America as the marketable commodity has become a very profitable industry.

Do you believe health care should be treated as a commodity?

Obama doesn’t answer the question directly.  Instead, he immediately launches into a blithering diatribe about what he would do as president – a plan which includes allowing those who don’t have their own health insurance to be able to buy the same kind of insurance federal employees receive.  At whose expense?  Who will pay for this benefit?  If I work for the government, one of my benefits is health coverage, and it’s really not too shabby.  I would imagine that in a free market, this coverage would be pretty costly, so who will fund this coverage?

Do I really need to even answer that?

OBAMA:  …one of the things that I have said from the start of this campaign is that we have a moral commitment as well as an economic imperative to do something about the health care crisis that so many families are facing.

We have a moral commitment?  Really?  I have a moral commitment to fund a service for those who cannot or will not buy it on their own?  Does a doctor have a moral commitment to provide treatment to sniveling freeloaders – to expend his own time and resources and energy because the government forces him to?  Doctors take an oath to do no harm.  Most of them will work hard to save someone’s life, regardless of whether or not that person can pay.  But will you force every doctor to work for less than the value of his labor, or worse yet… for free, because some people can’t or won’t buy health insurance or can’t or won’t pay for the treatment? 

Don’t get me wrong.  I feel sorry for the folks who genuinely need treatment and can’t afford it.  I would help them myself if I could.   But there’s a difference between being free to follow a moral obligation and being forced to do so via government force.

MCCAIN:  I want to give every American a $5,000 refundable tax credit. They can take it anywhere, across state lines.

That’s nice.  What about those who don’t make enough to warrant it?  What about those who don’t work at all?  What about multi-millionaires who choose to pay for their health care themselves and can afford it without insurance?  Do they get a refundable tax credit as well?  What about those illegals to whom you want to give amnesty?  It’s one thing to offer people choices.  It’s quite another to do it at others’ expense.

So is health care in America a privilege, a right, or a responsibility?  The replies are telling.

MCCAIN: I think it’s a responsibility, in this respect, in that we should have available and affordable health care to every American citizen, to every family member.

OBAMA: Well, I think it should be a right for every American. In a country as wealthy as ours, for us to have people who are going bankrupt because they can’t pay their medical bills …there’s something fundamentally wrong about that.

Someone PLEASE school Senator McCain on the definition of “responsibility!”

And someone PLEASE school Senator Obama on the definition of a “right!”

I’ve quoted this particular passage by Dr. Walter Williams before, and it seems very apropos here, so I will do it again.

At least in the standard historical usage of the term, a right is something that exists simultaneously among people. A right confers no obligation on another. For example, the right to free speech is something we all possess. My right to free speech imposes no obligation upon another except that of non-interference. Similarly, I have a right to travel freely. That right imposes no obligation upon another except that of non-interference.

Contrast those rights to the supposed right to decent housing or medical care. Those supposed rights do confer obligations upon others. There is no Santa Claus or Tooth Fairy. If you don’t have money to pay for decent housing or medical services, and the government gives you a right to those services, where do you think the money comes from?

What does this mean?  That no one has the right to appropriate the fruits of another’s labor.  It means that you exchange value for value.  When you demand the right to health care, you are demanding the right to either a) steal money from another via government force or b) steal the efforts of another, forcing them to provide the health care that you claim a right to by government force.

It doesn’t matter if we’re wealthy.  We worked hard to get there, and to appropriate our efforts and our earnings merely because we worked harder than others or were more successful than others is theft.  Period.

That McCain doesn’t understand the definition of “responsibility” is abundantly clear.  Ensuring that everyone has a valued, in-demand commodity at everyone else’s expense is not “responsibility,” and forcing those of us who work hard to sustain those who can’t or won’t through government dictates sounds appallingly like McCain believes health care to be a right for everyone, regardless of whether or not they accept the responsibility for paying for it.

I’m seriously revolted by both of these douchebags.  One is an outright socialist who spells out his desire to steal from you to sustain others.  The other is a cloaked one, who likes to pretend he respects freedom, until it comes time to hand out goodies to the Great Unwashed during election season.

The lesser of two evils? 

No thanks.

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Research Shows Gun Show Restrictions Don’t Prevent Crime or Suicides

by LearnAboutGuns.com October 7, 2008 Learn About Guns

Anti gun groups like to argue that gun shows and the private sale of gun is a “loophole” that leads to crime or suicide.  A recent study compared homicides and suicides in areas that restrict gun shows and areas which do not.  The result was that tighter regulation of gun shows does not reduce [...]

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Debate Summary and Conclusion of Analyses

by USCitizen October 7, 2008 Traction Control

Buy Weapons

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Dehydrator Bound!

by Rio Arriba October 7, 2008 Outback Notes

Jalopeño slices on their way to the dehydrator. It’s the end of the season and there is some chill in the air today so I went out and brought in the last of the squash, tomatoes, and peppers. I’ll keep a big batch of peppers for eating, freeze a bunch…

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Debate thread

by SayUncle October 7, 2008 SayUncle

Have at it, if you want to. I will note I keep seeing press accounts that say things like don’t expect fighting words or getting mean could be a mistake. What that translates to McCain, don’t talk too much about Obama’s past.
They do have an election to win.

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Live Chat McCain/Obama Debate Starts Now

by jr October 7, 2008 A Keyboard and a .45

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Happy 1st Blogiversary to…

by Tam October 7, 2008 View from the Porch

…my Roomie. Go congratulamate her!(I’m feeling guilty because I totally spaced linking Breda’s celebratory post last Wed. I can’t forget to listen to the Gun Nuts: TNG show tonight, either. Only an hour away… )

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On This Day…

by jr October 7, 2008 A Keyboard and a .45

…1849 Edgar Allan Poe was, in the words of the Raven, “Nevermore”.

Thanks to Ballseye’s Boomers for his post Today In History – Quoth The Raven, “Nevermore” reminding us of this fact.

In honor of Edgar Allan Poe’s life, I’m currently listening to Alan Parsons Project Tales of Mystery and Imagination. It has been awhile.

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Join Us…

by jr October 7, 2008 A Keyboard and a .45

…here for a Live Chat of the McCain/Obama debate. I will be hosting a “simulblog” of the chat taking place over at Mike’s America (this is, of course, assuming I can copy and past code).

Live chat will begin here 15 minutes before the debate beginning at 8:45 PM EST (5:45 PM, PST).

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Criminals for Gun Control

by Dustin October 7, 2008 Dustin's Gun Blog

Criminals explain why they are in favor of gun control – posted by youtube user antiprise:

On this 2nd version, viewer discretion is advised due to language & content:

H/T to Michael Bane.

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The Suicide of Capitalism

by jr October 7, 2008 A Keyboard and a .45

An essay on the death of the American free markets by Syd.

A coup d’état took place in this country during the past two weeks. If you didn’t notice, perhaps you were distracted by the Dolphins whipping the Chargers, or Tina Fey’s grotesque parodies of Sarah Palin, or perhaps you were immersed in blogs trying to prove that Barak Obama is a domestic terrorist. Regardless of the distraction, while our attention was diverted, a revolution took place. No shots were fired, but plenty of blood was shed. The United States ceased to be a capitalist economy and became a managed socialist state…

Yes, you do have to go read the whole thing.

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I meep for the country

by SayUncle October 7, 2008 SayUncle

It’ll make you meep too.

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Surely they can mobilize their Nashville division

by SayUncle October 7, 2008 SayUncle

Oh. Don’t have one?
Paul Helmke:
Having said this, I hope that one audience member will stand up and ask both candidates about the 100,000 gun deaths and injuries Americans suffer each year, and what they propose to help reduce this level of violence.
The problem is especially acute in a state like Tennessee.
I’m guessing this is not [...]

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Decent human beings among the rabidly anti-gun are in short supply

by One Sensible Progressive October 7, 2008 The Bluff

As I said in an earlier blog, it was anti-gunners and their hyperbole and outright lies that turned me into an active pro-gun supporter and NRA member. The more I read posts from the anti-gunners, particularly Mr. Helmke of the Brady Campaign, the more…

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What needs to be said

by Peter October 7, 2008 Firearms and Freedom

Obama’s latest stem cell research ad is not just “misleading” “Out of bounds” “Manhandling the truth” or “Wrong.” It is a lie. Pure and simple, a lie. The ad claims that both Governor Palin and the Republican platform oppose all stem cell research. Not only is that a lie, it is pretty easy to check.
While what [...]

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Hanover County Public Hearing on Gun Law

by VSSA October 7, 2008 Virginia Shooting Sports Assoc.

On Wednesday, October 8th, the Hanover County Board of Supervisors will hold a public hearing on Ordinance No. 08-23 – Amending Hanover County Code Section 24-4 to Prohibit Generally the Discharge of Weapons within the Urban Services Area and within …

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Obama “didn’t know”??

by USCitizen October 7, 2008 Traction Control

Amanda Carpenter at Townhall.com writes this in: Team Obama Spinning on Their Candidate’s Ties to Ayers .
Didn’t.Know?
With such a wealth of ignorance how does the man manage to tie his freakin’ shoes in the morning ?

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District court rulings post-Heller

by Of Arms and the Law October 7, 2008 Arms & The Law

The Volokh Conspiracy has discussions of Industrious v. Cauley, and US v. Yanecy, both prohibited person prosecutions.

Industrious strangely cites the Parker Court of Appeals dissent as if it was the rule of Heller — and botches the dissent at that (seeming to think it means the 2A only applies in DC, when the dissent claimed the 2A didn’t apply in DC).

Yancey suggests that we’ll see a return of what happened in Lopez: lower courts taking a Supreme Court ruling that they dislike and treating it as incredibly narrow (in that case’s aftermath, finding that the ruling only applies to firearms possessed in a school zone, since the ruling mentioned that schools were traditionally a State/local matter, and refusing to extend its limitations on the commerce power to any other setting).

The holding is hardly exceptional: the 2A doesn’t forbid laws against possessing guns while using illicit drugs. But the language, “Heller stands only for the proposition that the District of Columbia cannot constitutionally ban handgun possession in the home for use in self-defense by persons not otherwise prohibited from gun possession” is what gives concern.

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Carrie Dann Reporting

by David Codrea October 7, 2008 The War on Guns

With many citizens convinced of their right under the constitution to keep and bear arms…What, you mean like people who believe in ghosts or UFOs? This makes it sound debatable.And here’s some new information:But the semi-automatic ammunition used in…

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Passages ‘Eliminated’ from the 2nd Amendment

by Murdoc October 7, 2008 Gun Pundit

Part of letter written to the editors of the Chicago Tribune
I could write to members of Congress, who have the power to effect change, but by allowing the assault weapons ban to expire they have already shown how much they care. I could write to the courts, which also are powerful, but our highest court [...]

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More of this, please

by Peter October 7, 2008 Firearms and Freedom

Breda said in the comments over at No Looking Backward (Hat tip):
That McCain has been waiting for the end of the campaign – when the average person actually starts paying attention.
I hope and pray she is right.
If that is the case, it could actually work out very well for McCain. We have seen time and [...]

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Ohio Gun talk radio show

by Murdoc October 7, 2008 Gun Pundit

Via Buckeye Firearms Association:
Buckeye Firearms Association Chairman Jim Irvine hosts Firearms Forum, Ohio’s first gun talk radio show. Tune in every Sunday night from 10 p.m. to 11 p.m. on Cleveland’s WHK 1420 AM.
Jim talks about new guns, old guns, concealed carry, self-defense, hunting, sport shooting, gun collecting, gunsmithing, the Second Amendment, and more. Plus [...]

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Out for a bit…

by Tam October 7, 2008 View from the Porch

I have an errand to run at Beech Grove Firearms, across the street from the Vast FEMA Extermination Camp (*snicker*). If I don’t make it back, send the internet commandos.”zomg teh barb wire points inwards!!!!1!1!!one!”(PS: If you really believe that t…

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Here’s Why Ayers Matters

by Rustmeister October 7, 2008 Rustmeister's Alehouse

Aunt B. (and others) wonder what the whole Ayers thing was all about:When they learn that it’s some dude from the 60s, though, and “some dude from the 60s” is as direct a quote as I can remember, they don’t give a shit.That, of course, is what …

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Blogiversary

by Rustmeister October 7, 2008 Rustmeister's Alehouse

Not here.Here.Happy first, Roberta..

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A civil rights video for people who believe in the ENTIRE Bill of Rights

by One Sensible Progressive October 7, 2008 The Bluff

Dave Hardy’s excellent video, In Search of the Second Amendment, has now sold over 6,000 copies. 1 of those copies was to me, and I can tell you it was an excellent source of information and history.May have to get it out and watch it again …

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Video from Blackwater Gun Blogger Weekend

by Of Arms and the Law October 7, 2008 Arms & The Law

Here, via Michael Bane’s Downrange TV. If you want to see how fast Todd Jarrett can fire on the move, check out the “shooting on the move clip.” If you’d like to see the fun in the shoothouse, try “lasers in the shoothouse.” Not to say you get a little zoned out during that exercise, but this was the first I knew the videographer was behind me (and he’s toting a big professional camera). The jokes about being startled were based on the fact that inside the last door, the “bad guy” target was right in your face, which is why I shot without taking a stance.

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Another 911 call

by Of Arms and the Law October 7, 2008 Arms & The Law

Video here. The video clip doesn’t relate the whole story; apparently she called 911, wound up relayed to wrong police department, got transferred, related her location (although too panicked to give an exact address), fled to the police station and was killed in their parking lot after being kept out by some manner of fence.

The commentators have a point: given that the event lasted 3.5 minutes, with her changing locations, it’d be hard to prove that even if 911 had handled it efficiently, she would have lived. On the other hand, if she’d been able to dial 357…

Hat tip to Don Kates…

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We’re the Only Ones Litigious Enough

by David Codrea October 7, 2008 The War on Guns

A police weapons specialist who shot himself in the hand is suing the PSNI…His legal team is arguing that a…second person should have been present…Why? So he wouldn’t have been the “Only One” shot?What’s the difference between “gun expert” Peter …

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Panola Club Championship 2008

by SayUncle October 7, 2008 SayUncle

Robert has video.

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New Jersey (NJ): What NFA Firearms can I own? Updated

by David M. Goldman October 7, 2008 NFA Gun Trust Lawyer Blog

There are several type of Class 3 items that are restricted by the National Firearms Act. Each state can impose additional restrictions on the sale, purchase, and transfer of class 3 firearms in addition to the compliance that is…

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If it’s October, astroturf must be in season!

by SayUncle October 7, 2008 SayUncle

Sebastian notes the supposed NRA member who is supporting Obama is a fool. Yes, he is, if he thinks Obama is not a threat to gun rights. On other issues, you may like them but if you value gun rights, Obama is opposed to them. More here:
You know, I?d love to believe that Obama is [...]

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Low Hanging Fruit

by Rustmeister October 7, 2008 Rustmeister's Alehouse

I shouldn’t pick on this guy, but it’s been a while, and this is too easy.Baring Arms Isn’t RightSteven MrozikThe founding fathers bestowed many unalienable rights. They are most commonly known as part of the “Bill of Rights.” One of these unalienable …

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Gun Pr0n: Lightweight .50

by USCitizen October 7, 2008 Traction Control

At Argghhh!!!
Go take a peek.

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Palm Pistol – An Ergonomic Firearm with a Combination Lock

by David M. Goldman October 7, 2008 NFA Gun Trust Lawyer Blog

Working with many elderly clients in my Florida Elder Law and Florida Estate Planning Law firm, I like to report on items that tend to make life easier and have yet to see another product like this.  As people age,…

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